you hear talk about it's immigration, guns, global warming or it's the deficit, or the debt ceiling or whatever. it has been a long time since i heard people here in the congress or even from the white house talk about jobs. what is happening on the jobs front out there? it is getting any better? >> we see only a marginal improvement in some sectors of the manufacturing economy, but there's tremendous pressure upon employers right now uncertain about the economic condition of this country and the follies of our congress, not to be able to make a decision on this so they are withholding investment. they are sitting on piles of cash that could be plowed -- >> bill: still today? >> today. that could be plowed into reinvestment to produce products america needs and the rest of the world. >> bill: have the employers realized they can make more money with fewer employees and that is why they are not hiring? this has been going on for a while, right? >> it's oftentimes i criticize the business community for being such short-term thinkers. it's the bottom line on the quarterly if not monthly o